I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with Network Creators.

Most of you wine and cry about what you don't like or what features you want, but where is your voice when Ning is asking for feedback. Case in point the Beta Chat, I can count on my fingers the number of creators who are/have given feedback.

Don't give me some line that you didn't want to test it out cause it's in beta. Turn it on engage your members, ask them to test it out even if it's only for a few hours and get their feed back. They will appreciate you more for trying to improve your network. If it's not up to par yet disable the beta and turn back on the old chat and wait till the next update.

Don't complain for the next four years about the New Chat when you didn't even VOTE, oops I mean give feedback.

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There is only one reason facebook defeated Myspace. That is groups. Myspace groups went down and 90%I left because of it. I only used it because of the groups and customizable profiles.

That is absolutely not true, Vladimir. That may be what you believe, but you can read about the facts here.

It is true though, coupled with the fact that 1.0 changed to 2.0 then 3.0. This sudden change made people angry. Almost 90% of my 1,000,000 + friends left because of the disappearance of groups, coupled with the new look. Profiles were no longer as customizable as they once were and their groups were their most active feature. Being a part of myspace when it first started, until it's downfall, as a member of every group. Now a lot of the myspace fans are on roleplayer.me or sitemodel and the rest fb.

That's why many of our designers left.  Now we are on the sites you listed more often. 

Also. If ning creators wants feedback they need to find a better way to get people into the beta chat group. Trying to find it without knowing about that one link is a hassle.

Hmmm..the announcement about the beta chat used to be on the main page front and center!  It's gone now.  

I removed that note last week. We've moved all of the conversation to the Chat Beta Group. I think we have plenty of people trying it out. I've also included it in our weekly Creators digest and will continue to include it there. 

I'm glad that there are plenty of people trying it out!  The more the better.

I had to do some digging to find it.  That is most of the reason I don't come here very often.  I get stuck for hours and rarely find what I was looking for.

They should put it in announcements. Just to get it out to more people to test and critique.

I plead guilty as charged, Kris.  (On not giving feedback, not on whining.)  May I request leniency in light of my offline life getting in the way?

On the whole facebook subthread:  if your members complain about the richness of experience that your site offers (as opposed to facebook), then you have the wrong members. Sent them back to facebook, where they can indulge in inane sharing of meaningless status messages.  "I just went to subway. soooo cool."  Let them contribute to the noise of the net. Focus on members who can actually contribute with content.

Having said that, I do feel that the user interface of a ning site can be daunting, especially for beginners. But so is the cockpit of an Airbus plane.

if your members complain about the richness of experience that your site offers (as opposed to facebook), then you have the wrong members. Sent them back to facebook, where they can indulge in inane sharing of meaningless status messages.  "I just went to subway. soooo cool."  Let them contribute to the noise of the net.

AMEN to THAT, Macfly!

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