I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with Network Creators.
Most of you wine and cry about what you don't like or what features you want, but where is your voice when Ning is asking for feedback. Case in point the Beta Chat, I can count on my fingers the number of creators who are/have given feedback.
Don't give me some line that you didn't want to test it out cause it's in beta. Turn it on engage your members, ask them to test it out even if it's only for a few hours and get their feed back. They will appreciate you more for trying to improve your network. If it's not up to par yet disable the beta and turn back on the old chat and wait till the next update.
Don't complain for the next four years about the New Chat when you didn't even VOTE, oops I mean give feedback.
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Thanks, Diane. :-)
My users don't complain about the richness of experience that my site offers. If that was their complaint they wouldn't care to be a member. They complain (That's not even the right word. With one or two exceptions- both family members- They don't complain. I just sense their frustration) about the user interface. It inhibits their ability to immerse themselves into the richness of the experience as much as they'd like to. It shouldn't be like learning to fly an airbus plane. It should be like riding a big wheel. Or maybe a mountain bike.
I am the one complaining about the richness of experience, only because I know how much better it could be - at least regarding the blogging interface which is so far my main area of activity. People who WANT to contribute are overwhelmed and confused about how to so they shy away. And people who want to read are turned off from reading too much because they can never get the fluidity of skimmable or readable information that a traditional blog (like WordPress) offers. If it was a brick and mortar business, it is like turning away customers at the door who have their money in their hand and WANT to spend it because I put an obstacle course in front of the front door.
Tovagold, I think I understand your frustration. My point was that a certain amount of content or a certain complicatedness of content (pics/videos/blogs/wikis/discussions etc.) necessitates a certain complicatedness of the user interface. One cannot separate these two issues. Functionality goes down if richness of content goes up. There might be plateaus, where one can keep the user interface simple and pick some low-hanging fruits, but unless someone comes up with a complete break-through of user interface design, thats about it.
I agree that ning's user interface leaves quite something to be improved (to use polite words). But in the end, some people might prefer posting silly status messages somewhere else, because it is simpler to do so instead of engaging in a thoughtful and lengthy discussion.
Has everyone gone mad today? I knew I was going to regret continuing with this thread.
I don't know who is talking about "richness' or "hippies" or "love and peace", I was speaking strictly of Ning's technological shortcomings. I'm currently running a F*** Facebook campaign, so I'm not fan (can you point to where I said or implied that I am), and everyone knows how much I despise the site, though not for the ambiguous reasons sited here by others.
It's about the functionality of Ning versus Facebook, and the latter is superior in that department without question. That is the reason why Facebook is popular, there's not a whole lot of clutter in the way of content (despite whatever you may think of said content). The next person to mention anything about "content" gets smacked in the skull with the Stupid Stick.
Sheesh! Good to know that even inebriated, my mind is sharper than supposedly sober ones.
Thunder....it's okay dude. LOL You're taking this a LOT more serious than we are. (We understand what you're saying, by the way, or at least I do.) Just FB bashing, which I find to be quite fun...
:) to diane.
And thunder, fwiw, I was pretty inebriated when I wrote my original rant, hence, why it landed in this thread. :D to you too.
LOL It's all good....
@Kris Don't you think that bugs are a reason to complain about, i do.
Next four years ha ha ha!!!. Sorry Kris can't help myself on this one. Good one
Bravo Kris. Ning does have it faults but they have been on the ball lately. They have given everyone ample opportunity to beta test features lately. They tell you how in their weekly emails yet folks want to act like "no one told me". I was one of the first people Evan let use the chat because I was paying attention when he asked "I need a few people to test it out". Then he made it readily available for Ning Labs for everyone.
There are a lot of powerful minds here on this network, but without order we will just be in a chaotic state. It's okay to be upset at times, but some people only whine and never have anything positive to say. We have got to do better family.
I would be one who would be willing to test it but on my network there's hardly any chatting going on.
Have to mention that I have no problem at all with something being beta.
So where is the feedback to be sent? Not that any of our members have used chat for months... and, to be quite frank, I don't think the new Beta version will entice them to do so.