Livewired (Apps I/O) "Jukebox" application is gone...

[Ken Rich]

What is Ning going to do now that they have killed the Jukebox application?

Do they have a replacement ïn the works"? That app was the heart of my network, and we won't be sticking around long without something similar or better.

What is the use to build a music network and pay PRO pricing so that artists can upload their songs, if those songs are not indexed, searchable, tracked for statistics, and made available for download sales?

Ning could have easily provided all of that through the "Jukebox"app. Now I have a network that is all but useless - I might as well shut it down and tell everyone to go join Reverbnation.

We have over 1,100 original songs by member artists uploaded. We can only show 100 of them. The rest are invisable, except for in the artists players. They are not able to be properly promoted, shared, sold - or even found.

I pay Pro for what????????

Here is my Networks Roadmap for the future. It details what we as a music based network need, and how Ning is failing us.

http://www.indiegospel.org/page/indie-gospel-road-map

[Ken Rich]

One can hope - but Ning was made aware of these concerns long ago and ignored them.

I don't expect anything from them, I have lost confidence in Ning, especially when it comes to this issue.

[Ken Rich]

I tried it on my site and it sucked. This is what I was after:

http://www.indiegospel.org/page/gospeljukebox-3

[Tony Ramos]

I lost my Livewired Music Index as well... This really sucks.

[Ken Rich]

Thanks for pointing out how much this sucks for those of us who depended on that app.

[Keith Davis]

I already posted about this on another post, Eric or one of the Ning staff did mention they may look into this.... but I wont hold my breath! Only because there are other jobs on their road map of equal or more importance.

I too have a music oriented site and it is quite strange why Ning have not picked up on what could be for them a VERY lucrative market, selling music? I have over 4000 mp3s from hundreds of bands and over 1000 videos listed but like you say no good if you can't search them or sell them or quite frankly do anything 'useful' at all with!

 

Come on Ning... sort this one out sooner rather than later!

[Ken Rich]

Hi Keith,

Ning has confirmed that API access for song tracks does not currently exist, and will not for a minimum 3-6 months, if ever.

I have a work-a-round solution lined up. I am hiring a programmer to take an existing Jukebox script and tailor it to use the Ning archiver JSON data to build the playlist.

If you want in, split the development cost and we can both have a fully customizable Jukebox, capable of selling downloads, statistic tracking, indexing, searching, etc.

You can open it as an external page on a Tab, or embed it in an i-frame to a Ning page (to make it look Native).

I even have a friend with a hosting company who can keep it fast (even under high demand) cheaply, secure the download sales, use the company programmer and graphics people, etc., to cheapen it up.

The only drawback will be manually updating it, if you still want to upload songs through Ning (to keep using their players), otherwise there is no downside I can see.

 

[Tony Ramos]

How much are we talking about?  I am willing to invest a little money.

[Ken Rich]

Hi Tony,

I'm not sure yet. However, the more people who throw in, the cheaper it gets for everyone.

I'll let you know when I have an estimate from the programmer. Quotes from more than one would be wise.

I only made the decision to move in this direction today, and it will take some time to get set-up. The main thing is - it's been confirmed as doable, and really the only way to move forward.

I like the idea of owning your own script for this part of the network too, since it gives the ability to customize what is crucial to a music based network.

[Tony Ramos]

Hi Ken,

Yes, Definitely keep me in the loop.

 

Thanks,

 

Tony Ramos

[Keith Davis]

Yep I am in, let me know more.

Have you thought of Amazon S3 storage? or am I off track?

 

Anyway keep me posted as I think we could really take off having the ability to search, sell etc!

 

cheers

Keith

[Ken Rich]

Hi Keith,

No I hadn't considered that.

My first step is to find a half dozen or so "Jukebox"scripts for the programmer to look at, to see which one will be eaiest to modify to our needs.

That is what will start the "ball rolling" and it will develop from there.

There are a ton of scripts out there, so sorting out the best choices is difficult.

[The PL Team (d&e)]

Same here, we may be shutting down YourCrate.com shortly... No searching of tracks uploaded, kills the core of the site.